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Lest we forget, they were boys, too. Formed in 1976 whilst still at school and just in time, or perhaps because of, the punk explosion. This debut LP set from 1979 clearly betrays the groups punkish origins although is already moving beyond such limited confines. The writing of one Robert Smith slows the pace down for some songs, has a more usual punk speed and style for other songs. Quite a varied set, no less! Ah, before I begin proper. In the US, this album was repackaged as 'Boys Don't Cry' substituting certain tracks here for a couple of Cure singles. It made for a more commercial, if less pure album, but I won't be discussing that particular set here. Oh no, instead i'll focus on the types of songs here I imagine Robert Smith and his Cure fellows were playing way back in 1976/1977, when mere lads. So, ah yes, 'The Weedy Burton', the kind of inconsequential one minute long track a group would play to wind down their set at an early pub gig. A cover of Jimi Hendrix 'Foxy Lady', sang here by one Michael Dempsey, the groups then bass/guitar player. And you know what? This track that replaces the original music, melody and many of the words of the Hendrix original, comes across as very light, weak punk rock. The kind of style that would have got the group absolutely nowhere had they perservered with it. Then we've got a song such as 'So What', an intriguing state of musical transition that points towards the groups immediate future, which by the way, was also contained on this LP. Indeed, the move away from covering the likes of 'Foxy Lady' and producing material such as 'So What' and 'Meat Hook' right through to the assured melodic pop/new wave style of '10.15' is the kind of progress many groups would make over a matter of years, rather than during the course of one LP. Naturally, this could have been down to the fact The Cure were writing new songs at a rate of knots. That 'Three Imaginary Boys' contains a mix of old and new Cure compositions, although of course, we aren't to know if that was a fact or is mere speculation on my part.
From Neil Jackson jbayview4@aol.com
A near enough spot on review, once again, Adrian. "Three Imaginary Boys" is definitely their weakest album before a few mediocre releases in the mid 90's. In saying that though I'd probably rate it a Seven and a Half out of Ten. Boys Don't Cry" (US) on the other hand is near enough flawless. It contains alot of superior tunes not avaliable on the UK debut such as the brilliant title track, "Plastic Passion", "Killing An Arab" and "Jumping Someone Elses Train"
From Rupe rupertbear1968@yahoo.co.uk
I disagree with you guys - I give this LP a 9.5 and to my mind this remains their very best album!! It is punky just as punk transformed itself into New Wave and is now available as a 2CD Deluxe edition (as are several other Ficition LPs). "the tap goes drip drip drip..." brilliant!!
From Chris Jones futureproof381@hotmail.com
Tentative steps toward the sound perfected on the next 3 albums,being a mixture of crappy attempts at punk-So What,Meat Hook-and songs that crystallize the classic 'cure sound'-10.15 Saturday Night,the title track-the score given is pretty fair hear. Seventeen Seconds 7 ( 1980, UK pos 20 ) A Reflection / Play For Today / Secrets / In Your House / Three / The Final Sound / A Forest / M / At Night / Seventeen Seconds Enter Simon Gallup to play bass, after Mr Dempsey apparently didn't like Robert Smith's new lyrics or songs. We've also got a keyboard player here, so The Cure become a proper four-piece of guitars/vocals, keyboards, bass and drums. Perversely, they sound much less like an actual band here than they did on their debut. Well, let me explain. They sound more focused and tighter and have certainly got better, yet where are the live sounding drums? Where are the rock and roll guitars? Well, nowhere to be seen of course. 'Seventeen Seconds' has a drum pattern that is the same throughout all the songs, yet subtly varied, sped up or slowed down, for each one. Sometimes, not even that! The bass also varies, just enough, picking out different moods. Yes, 'Seventeen Seconds' does indeed have different moods. It's also an album quite hard to actually write about. Well, i'll try my best. Robert Smith wasn't too happy with 'Three Imaginary Boys' as an actual album. So, 'Seventeen Seconds' is deliberately cohesive, to the point that yeah, all the songs seem to sound more or less the same. Yet, we've got different lyrics and different tempos and different guitar melodies and different bass patterns. Even if all the guitar parts use the same tone and all the bass guitar parts use the same tone. Ahem. Well, it's certainly interesting on a first or second listen, as the sounds merge together song after song, yet the likes of 'A Forest' or 'Play For Today' immediately jump out at you as proper, melodic pop songs.
From Andrew balgobin andrew.balgobin@btinternet.com
17 seconds is a stone cold classic and the best of the Cure's early 80s efforts. Retains a pop sensibility while being serious enough to retain long term interest. It's icy production still captivates me after all these years. 9/10.
From Roscoe rupchurch@agric.wa.gov.au
Must put my ten cents worth in here as well. 17 seconds, Faith, and Disintergration are excellent albums, the first two being underated here. I would place them somewhere between 8 to 9ish on your ratings, pornography is good too, but a bit too eighty's for my taste, more like 7-8.
From Peter Ayscough peteandsia@bigpond.com
Seventeen seconds is the Cure's best album. Faith was boring, Pornography horribly produced and everything else a commercial compromise. This album though was perfect. No solo's, no egos, no overproduction, just understated, unadorned, honest, tight little guitar songs that work consistently throughout the entirety of the record. Faith 8 ( 1981, UK pos 14 ) The Holy Hour / Primary / Other Voices / All Cats Are Grey / The Funeral Party / Doubt / The Drowning Man / Faith Adding yet further depth, shade and texture, Robert Smith and friends move further into the territory marked 'bleak'. Yet of course, it's a bleak with shards of light raining down on you intermittantly, and its these bursts of light that we seek out in a good, balanced Cure album. Two songs less on this set than the previous 'Seventeen Seconds' which allowed Robert Smith to further refine his search for a perfect, cohesive album with no filler and his search for an album that would mean something to the listener. Mr Smith with his growing hair, his penchant for reading unsuitable books and regurgitating all of this in his increasingly oblique and intellectual lyrics. 'The Holy Hour' makes for a weighty, serious opener which is thrown into relief by the urgent bass led 'Primary'. Which in turn, is led by the slower, serious, yet still melodic fine tunery of 'Other Voices', which I happen to adore. It gets me, not sure why. It reaches inside me, I love the sound of a bass guitar in any case and Simon Gallup does a fine job with his bass-lines across the album as a whole. Hats off to Mr Gallup! A perfectly paced and constructed first half of the album is rounded off with the beautiful 'All Cats Are Grey'. We get the first of a particular kind of extended Cure song introduction, something they'd repeat in years hence, particularly with their lauded 'Disintegration' album. The vocals and lyrics for 'All Cats Are Grey' are particularly sombre in tone, yet then again? People dying in Iraq. The London bombings. News stories everyday. Those kind of events are full of sombre tones. The Cure are just painting with music and words to evoke a feeling in a listener. That 'All Cats Are Grey' contains beautiful, if minimalist music, should really be enough. That the vocals and words are used deliberately to create a certain artistic effect. That should really be enough. Pornography 8½ ( 1982, UK pos 8 ) One Hundred Years / A Short Term Effect / The Hanging Garden / Siamese Twins / The Figurehead / A Strange Day / Pornography Robert Smith goes all out here to create an album that was intended as a 'fuck you'. Who this is directed at remains unclear, but i'm not too worried. Lyrics that are consistently dark and death/murder obsessed. Listen to the magnificent opening. Could The Cure have created this without 'Closer' by Joy Division? The shadow of Joy Division hung heavy over early 80s alternative music in the UK. I don't care, 'One Hundred Years' is utterly brilliant. The regular/jerky drum pattern gets you moving and the synths are perfectly in tune, the guitar is suitably doomy. Robert spins his tales and snippets of unglory, one after the other. We get slower, 'Siamese Twins' for example repeats the drum pattern, slows it right down. The guitar lines work almost as additional moody percussion, neatly mixed with slices of beautiful, desolate, melodic phrases. It's difficult to say 'Pornography' is an album to be enjoyed, but then it was difficult to say that about either 'Faith' or 'Seventeen Seconds' either. It's clear however that the particular path Robert Smith was pursuing had reached some kind of ending with 'Pornography'. Well, perhaps not an ending, but at least an ending with a crossroads. No devil waiting, the devil was inside his own mind. It's easy to see why 'Pornography' was latched onto by hordes of similarly minded souls, the darkness is comforting when the light seems all too taunting. 'Cold', for example, could be the soundtrack to a suicidal soul and it could also be a distant relative of 'The Eternal' by Joy Division. It could also be a big Robert Smith hug for the lonely.
From Thom Peacock tomriol521@hotmail.com
I really do love this album very much, even though it's incredibly bleak i find it very easy to listen to. I also must say i love your site and agree on most of your reviews (85% or so) im also glad you agree that morrissey's voice is amazing...Anyway, this album seems to have more focus on it than most of their other albums, like they actually wanted to make an album fully and give it a full sound. Im so glad that they've re-released it with bonus tracks, and so glad you've finally reviewed it!
From johnrevs johnrevs@yahoo.co.uk
This album is probably the Cure's masterpiece; they took being as dark, dysfunctional and drug addled as they could. The Figurehead, Cold, and 100 Years are fantastic, wrought taut pyschodramas; the only bad thing is the song Pornography which is a bit of racket. The Cure's Revolution Number 9 if you like
From Daniel Kemp Dan_mrPingu@msn.com
I agree with your review here. What an amazingly bleak album, but wonderful all he same. Only thing I have to say is that you've left the song "Cold" from the tracklisting, thankfully you mention it in the review. Keep up the good work sir.
Japanese Whispers 6½ ( 1983, UK pos 26 ) Let's Go To Bed / The Dream / Just One Kiss / The Upstairs Room / The Walk / Speak My Language / Lament / The Lovecats Releasing singles as un-cure like as possible resulted in? Lots of people who had never heard of The Cure suddenly loved them! Not that Japanese Whispers, a compilation of various Cure single projects recorded in 1983, is particularly a good document, but it does and did serve a purpose. First then, some background. Simon Gallup left the group, Robert Smith spent time working with Siouxsie And The Banshees and 'Lets Go To Bed' was released as an excersize in sounding different to how they'd sounded before. It worked, it scratched away at the singles charts, as did 'The Walk'. 'The Lovecats' absolutely stormed the charts, top ten in the UK! Robert Smith suddenly had a lot of things to think about as a result of his little excersize and all was well. Well, it split the existing fan-base of course, cries of 'sell-out' usually do accompany such things, but now it's all ancient history. The Cure were revealed as more than a one-trick pony, something long-term followers of the band knew anyway. So, 'Let's Go To Bed'? What, and have sex whilst listening to 'Pornography'? Well, as slices of early 80s dance influenced pop, 'The Walk and 'Let's Go To Bed' are pretty spiffing, fun, and the things have TUNES! Speaking of tunes, the stand-up bass of 'The Lovecats' perfectly matches the image of a cat walking up and down, all slinky. As a cat-lover, i've a couple or four 'lovecats' myself in my home, but that's by the by. The song was felt as 'novelty' by Robert Smith, and indeed it is. The fact that it became so huge may have embarrassed him, but when he picked up the royalty check, perhaps he cracked a wry smile. Who knows? The Top 7½ ( 1984, UK pos 10 ) Shake Dog Shake / Birdmad Girl / Wailing Wall / Give Me It / Dressing Up / The Caterpillar / Piggy In The Mirror / The Empty World / Bananafishbones / The Top 'The Top' was always going to have a difficult job to do, balancing a walk between Cure fans old and then new. The pop Cure fans are served by a glossier production than the likes of 'Pornography', but then, many of them won't have heard that album, anyway. Indeed, 'The Top' may have come across to fans of 'The Lovecats' as just lacking in good pop tunes. On the otherhand, fans of 'Pornography' will have lamented the glossier production and the definite loss in atmosphere moving forwards from 'Pornography'. In truth, glossy production aside, this album does have more in common with Cure past than it did the pop tunes contained on 'Japanese Whispers'. The tunes on this album don't seem to actually amount to anything, just a disparate collection of songs under the umbrella of the new sound of The Cure. It's a rockier sound in places, the mixing bringing out the guitars and drums better than Cure of before. Robert Smith himself doesn't seem to have changed much, his lyrics and vocals still mention blood and the like, but never mind that. Doesn't matter when 'Shake Dog Shake', the 'blood' song in question is quite thrilling, especially turned up loud on the old record player. I said Mr Smith was much the same. 'The Empty World' is the usual trip across a vocal and lyric that sounds mournful, etc, etc. The song has a few marching type things, no. I haven't checked out what the lyrics are actually about. Oh, 'The Caterpillar'! An excellent tune on an album generally slightly short on excellent tunes. This would have appealed to the new pop-cure fans, no question. It reveals wonderfully well what we can deduce in hindsight, which is 'The Top' is a transitional record working as a bridge between 'Pornography' and 'The Head On The Door'. Later albums would mix the two different strands, but we're getting ahead of ourselves, aren't we? Yes.
From (anonymous) MrTambourineMan@msn.com
The Top is one of the greatest records ever created. A seven and a half is a horrible rating. I would easily give this record a 10, easily. Shake Dog Shake gives me chills...in a good way. Its not just a random collection of songs that dont go anywhere either. Everything is perfect on this record. And not only "pop" Cure fans like this album. I like all of the Cure. Pornography, Faith...the whole works! Poor Review!
From Alex Jacks alex_jac1980@yahoo.com
Out of all Cure albums, between 79-92, I think this is the weakest one. Not that it is bad, but Shake Dog Shake works better live, The Caterpiller is good, as is the title track The Top, but most of it sounds like a group in transition, or Smithy in transition considering basically did the whole thing. I would go 6.5/10. The Head On The Door 8½ ( 1985, UK pos 7 ) In Between Days / Kyoto Song / The Blood / Six Different Ways / Push / The Baby Screams / Close To Me / A Night Like This / Screw / Sinking Well, the transformation is complete. This is easily the most melodic Cure album since 'Three Imaginary Boys'. It also sports the best sound, they've seemingly left their underground roots behind, although, Mr Smith still does his best lyrically. 'Kyoto Song' has a chorus that tells us Mr Robert Smith is "lying on the floor of the night before with a stranger next to me". He then mentions death in a pool and trembling hands. Well, I never! Anyway, this is the album that contains one of my favourite EVER Cure songs. Yes, 'Inbetween Days' for me is the first all-out classic pop song The Cure ever wrote. It's perfect pop song length, eg, no more than 3 minutes. It's got a distinctive introduction. The lyrics contain sad words yet the melody is one of the happiest of earth. I love songs like that! The vocals are swooning and georgeous, the song is perfect. So happy! Other singles from this set? Well, 'Close To Me' has a neat shuffling rhythm then a childlike melody and works as another fine piece of pop music. 'A Night Like This' is far more downbeat in feel - it goes dark, i'm watching. I'm going to find you even if it takes all night. Yet, melody prevails. A good balance was being found. 'A Baby Screams' contains a relatively speedy tempo for a Cure song. So did 'In Between Days'. The majority of the songs from 'The Top' didn't. 'The Head On The Door' is certainly the most 'poppy' album proper since the debut, no question.
From Tyler Bailey skywilde@yahoo.com
You couldn't be more right. 'Inbetween Days' is a glorious, melodic pop masterpiece which could only have sprung from the pen of Robert Smith or fallen from heaven.
From GAZZA Edinburgh
Ah the era of big hair,overcoats,flanged guitars and cider and blackcurrant . I never really got along with the goth stuff but i can appreciate this as a good pop album .
"in between days" "close to me" and "6 different ways " are simply great pop songs . "push" and "a night like this" and "kyoto" have more of a trademark cure sound .
Something for fans new and old clearly and commercial payload via american stadia wasnt far away ...
Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me 9 ( 1987, UK pos 6 ) The Kiss / Catch / Torture / If Only Tonight We Could Sleep / Why Can't I Be You? / How Beautiful You Are / The Snakepit / Just Like Heaven / All I Want / Hot Hot Hot / One More Time / Like Cockatoos / Icing Sugar / The Perfect Girl / A Thousand Hours / Shiver And Shake / Fight I often find the word sprawling used when reading reviews or articles about this album. Now, sprawling can be good or bad depending on context. Sprawling can be good, indicate some kind of lengthy, fantastic journey. Variety, and despite one or two mis-steps, the journey proves more than worth all the effort. On the otherhand, sprawling can be used to indicate an artists over-reaching ambition, a projects lack of cohesion or sustained worth. Robert Smith and his revolving door of side-men took a couple of years out before unveiling the yes, sprawling, 'Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me' double set. Is it worth all the effort? Is it so good effort is not even required in order to enjoy it? A confusing answer, effort is most definitely required but that doesn't neccesarily mean the album is sprawling in the latter sense. Not neccesarily. Initial listening just seems so monotonous, a run of songs indistinct from each other. The length of the album meaning you likely give up listening roughly two-thirds of the way through. Effort is required, the album demands repeated listening through the few utter genius pop nuggest sprinkled throughout. Those pop nuggets demand you listen to the rest of the album enough times so you feel you can't possibly radically change your mind about it. Anyhoo, what about said nuggets? Well, i'll start at the top with 'Just Like Heaven'. Later given a radical fuzz-guitar-noise makeover by Dinosaur Jr, 'Just Like Heaven' is just such a dreamy song, possibly even better than 'Inbetween Days', if such a thing is imaginable. The bass ( oh, what a melody! ) and the synths ( oh, how dreamy! ) combine just so well. The lyrics and vocals are so enchanting. The other hit from the album was 'Why Can't I Be You?', another pop nugget to draw you into this deep and wide collection of songs. Extending far downward beneath a surface. More than enough in size or scope or capacity. Disintegration 9½ ( 1989, UK pos 3 ) Plainsong / Pictures Of You / Closedown / Love Song / Last Dance / Lullaby / Fascination Street / Prayers For Rain / The Same Deep Water As You / Distintegration / Homesick / Untitled We had 'Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me', which moved in all sorts of directions. Albums such as 'Japanese Whispers' and 'The Head On The Door'. We'd experienced a few years of The Cure pursuing different themes - pop songs, stylistic shifts. They never strayed too far away from the black side, for every 'The Lovecats' we also got ourselves a 'Sinking', just as a reminder. Etc and so forth and something of the sort. 'Disintegration' on the otherhand plunged us right back into cohesive Cure mode, an entire album with much the same atmosphere, tone and feel throughout. Of course, there are variations. Of course, but variations rather than diversity. 'Disintegration', much like 'Pornography' or '17 Seconds' isn't really about being diverse. That's not really the point. As such, we move back to Cure songs where the backing tracks, on first glance, all seem to be very similar to each other. One thing that happens here, and you can see 'Pornography' was trying for the same effect, is that the lyrics are really thrown into sharp focus. Apart from subtly differing tempos and moods musically, it's the lyrics that really hold this album together. Having said that, certain Cure musical trademarks, such as the lengthy introductions, are taken to glorious extremes here. Some of these intros take on hypnotic qualities, instrumental introductions you could almost immerse yourself in all day long. Musically then, we get a wash of atmospheric keyboards, one note and one tone guitar playing, a drummer who tries gamely to provide different drum patterns throughout, even though the vast majority of the songs are in more or less the same tempo. Finally, the bass guitar. For certain songs, the bass is playing very much a minor, supporting role. Generally, it's the poppier material, if it can be called such, that gives the opportunity for melodic and wonderfully uplifting bass lines to appear. Yes, uplifting. Shards of light appearing.
From Marc Matsumoto mdoi@hotmail.com
I quite enjoy your reviews and wanted to write to you with a bit of information and not as criticism. Just to be a completist (helpful?), I wanted to let you know that the "Pictures Of You" single was indeed shorter with a running time of 4:45. The instrumental sections were considerably shortened, sometimes removed all together between verses. As for "Fascination Street", even though it wasn't released as a single in Britain, it was in North America. It was actually the first single in North America from Disintegration. It also performed second best reaching #46 while "Lovesong" made #2, "Lullaby" reached #74 and "Pictures of You" did slightly better at #71.
From Mike Simpson sorb@btconnect.com
Brilliant, I've quietly waited a long time for you to review this album. It's my 2nd favorite all time behind Joy Division's Closer. Both albums immerse you in a world so unique in its beauty, passion and despair.
From Chris chrisfret2004@yaho.co.uk
Great review!Couldnt agree more!You really summed up the hypnotic yet enchanting sounds of 'Disintegration' perfectly!i listened to it after your comments and found it a constantly rewarding and challenging set of songs. reveals more with every listen. my faves are title track and 'lullaby' at present.cheers.
Wish 8 ( 1992, UK pos 2 ) Open / High / Apart / From The Edge Of The Deep Green Sea / Wendy Time / Doing The Unstuck / Friday I'm In Love / Trust / A Letter To Elise / Cut / To Wish Impossible Things / End 'Wish' is structured in a similar fashion to the previous two albums in the most superficial sense, eg, it lasts for an hour plus. 'Disintegration' had a cohesive mood, 'Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me' didn't, but it did seem to envelop you as if it did have a cohesive mood. It took you on a journey. 'Wish' is a more straightforward beast, half the album is a return to the pop of 'Head On The Door', several tracks continue the usual Cure moodiness and darkness, albeit with a different sound. The production here is very 90s, not a trace of that 80s thinness that wasn't just something that happened on Cure records, it was common with a lot of 80s indie/alternative albums. Things changed with recording technology and a lot of artists produced very different sounding albums at the turn of the 90s to anything they had recorded previously. Certain artists embraced the new technology to move in different directions, others retained all their usual traits but used the 'new sound' to polish up their previous sonic template. This was fine for the likes of Cocteau Twins who with 'Heaven Or Las Vegas' married more polished production with arguably their finest set of songs. The Cure don't quite manage such a feat here, although they do produce a fine set of tunes all the same. Expectations perhaps were overly high, certain Cure fans almost lived or died through their Cure albums. 'Wish', it could and has been argued, just doesn't have that air of 'magic' surrounding it that the best Cure albums of the past posessed. It's all being a little picky, if you ask me. It's still a fine album.
From Alex Jacks alex_jac1980@yahoo.com
For my money this is one of the best 3 cure albums, and their last excellent album. For me their best material was released between 85-92, when they got a great settled line up. I would probably put this 3rd on the overall list, below Disintegration and Kiss Me, it still incorporates all of the moods of The Cure, and does it bloody well. I may be inclined to go 8 and a half out of 10.
From Danny danny@leftoffthedial.com
I always thought this one was massively underrated, probably because it coincided with a commercial pop breakthrough for the Cure, something old fans probably didn't like. "High" can get on my nerves, but "Friday I'm In Love" I always thought was clever. For these singles to still sound like the Cure AND to be happy is quite a feat, especially considering the band NEVER released anything happy before in their career except possibly "Just Like Heaven" or "Lovecats". Now disintegration was great (probably better), but it is gloomy and pretty slow the whole way through. Wish is THE most solid LP reflecting The Cure's discography. "Open" and From the Edge..." are just as good as pornography highlights like "100 years" and "The Figurehead", "Apart" is very Faith-like. "Impossible Things" and "End" do Disintegration. And "Cut" is an incredible song. Heavy and lightning fast layered guitar like the Cure had never attempted before except on Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss ME's far infer! ior "Shiver and Shake". "Trust" even beats Head On the Door highlights like "Sinking" and "Push". The we have "A Letter to Elise" still one of my favorites ever, and it holds up to ballads like "Charlotte Sometimes" and "M". "Wendy Time" is silly, but no sillier than some of the Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me fluff. What does that leave you with? "Doing The Unstuck" another fabulous danceable song about recklessly emerging from a dark mood to cheer up. Robert lost the plot on Bloodflowers and The Cure trying to revert to the cure's signature darkness for another disintegration. Wish was a massively impressive achievement that still proves nearly impossible to follow up. If I could have only one Cure album, it would be Wish.
Wild Mood Swings 4 ( 1996, UK pos 9 ) Want / Club America / This Is A Lie / The 13th / Strange Attraction / Mint Car / Jupiter Crash / Round & Round & Round / Gone! / Numb / Return / Trap / Treasure / Bare Four years was too long to stay away if all Robert Smith and fellows were going to offer was an uninspired re-tread of the previous record, with added brit-pop overproduction. 'Wild Mood Swings' is a Cure pop album in every sense of the word, which makes it somewhat strange that the two lead singles were so uninspired. 'The 13th' sounds like every other Cure pop song of a mid-tempo happy nature, rolled into one. 'Mint Car' just sounds so horribly recorded and mixed, which may well be a big part of the problem with the album as a whole. 'Mint Car' is a good example. You can hear guitars, but they are mixed in such a way as to sound almost embarrassed by themselves. The vocals also leave a little to be desired, as the resulting sound leaves the vocals way upfront ahead of the musical backing. It draws attention to deficiencies present in the latter day Robert Smith vocals. We'll move onto better tunes. I like the opening track, it's atmospheric enough and good enough to classify as a decent Cure tune, if not exactly a special one. The Cure seemed to have run out of any new ideas at all, bar making the production all the glossier. A procession of songs follow, one after the other and nothing seems to happen at all. No different textures, no interesting things to grab you. Well, 'Numb' intrigues immediately with acoustic guitar, still horribly mixed, yet acoustic all the same. A measured instrumental introduction to lead into a tired sounding Robert Smith. One of the albums more honest songs, I would wager.
From Johnny Canada ilikegrapes528@hotmail.com
I remember the crushing disappointment I felt upon first hearing this album. I first heard 'The 13th' and although I thought it was a bad single I still had high hopes as I thought 'Friday I'm in Love' was a rare mistep on their 'Wish' album. Boy was I wrong, this album just did not click with me from the start. The songwriting is too formulaic and boring, the production a little too slick and dull, although 'Mint Car' is a pretty class song.
From Brighteyes Norfolk
Have to agree with you here Adrian. Wild Mood Swings is a very average album, ruined by over-production and (whisper it) the fact Robert Smith seemingly used up all his remaining songwriting talent on Wish. However I think special mention does have to go to Jupiter Crash, the only really great song on the album, combining a haunting atmosphere with subtle melody and beautiful lyrics (about the meteor which crashed into the planet Jupiter in 1995).
From Danny danny@leftoffthedial.com
I agree the production varies here, but I enjoyed the change actually. There's so many old cure albums if you want their old sound there's no short supply. Originally I was disappointed with WMS, but it grew fiercely on me. Try ignoring relatively short upbeat tracks (ala Adrian's Theory) like Club America, Strange Attraction, and maybe the 13th and Mint Car when they come on. Those are the only really upbeat songs, and I think they break up the album in a pleasant way, but I know many disagree. The rest of the songs on this album are VERY good. Want, Treasure, Trap, Bare, Numb, and even Gone are all favorites of mine. I'm not saying the album's perfect, but these tracks hold up strong to any Cure era if you ask me.
Bloodflowers 5 ( 2000, UK pos 10 ) Out Of This World / Watching Me Fall / Where The Birds Always Sing / Maybe Someday / The Last Day Of Summer / There Is No If / The Loudest Sound / 39 / Bloodflowers I must say, following 'Wild Mood Swings', I thought The Cure dead and buried and wasn't expecting them to come back. The pre-release news about 'Bloodflowers' only further confused me. The third part of a now-trilogy with 'Pornography' and 'Distintegration'? Great, I thought, if they can pull it off. Secondly I thought, they'll alienate a good portion of their post 'Disintegration' fanbase who have grown up with 'Wish' and 'Wild Mood Swings', the britpop generation. Once hearing the album, 'Out Of This World' hardly impresses, atmospherics ruined by poor production, a lack of detail and a lack of the layering of instrumentation that made the sound and feel of 'Distintegration' so rich, the lack of simplicity that characterised 'Pornography'. Robert Smith himself invited such comparisions by drawing them in the first place, pre-release. Second tune, 'Watching Me Fall' continues the albums almost complete lack of inviting melody, the guitars swamped and indistinct, the vocals mere tuneless dirge, the lyrics somewhow lacking a certain genuine, convincing quality. As if the entire album is a mere excersize designed to win fans the groups more arty fans. Restore some lost credibility after the mediocre 'Wild Mood Swings'. It doesn't work, what even is this? It sounds like a rock/grunge band in slow motion with an unsuitable singer. I don't hold onto sacred cows, the history of The Cure is and should be irrelevant. Thankfully, the album does contain a couple of highlights, though. Firstly, 'The Last Day Of Summer'. This song sports a proper Cure introduction, genuinely appropriately lost and mournful sounding Robert Smith vocals. The sound of the track still doesn't convince, the keyboards mixed down, the guitars sounding strangely indistinct, although the bass does work here, a classic Cure-type bass-line.
From Chris Jones futureproof381@hotmail.com
The funny thing about Bloodflowers is you can pick any song and it sounds pretty good at first,but then goes on 2 or 3 minutes too long.More judicious editing would have helped.Out Of This World and 39 stand out,but Watching Me Fall is one of the worst Cure songs ever (11 mins!)
The Cure 6 ( 2004, UK pos 8 ) Lost / Labyrinth / Before Three / Truth Goodness and Beauty / The End Of The World / Anniversary / Us Or Them / alt.end / I Don't Know What's Going On / Taking Off / Never / The Promise / Going Nowhere Robert Smith is typically disgruntled and The Cure have made an album that sounds like a particularly adept Cure cover band in a top studio making a pastiche of 'Wish' with a little 'Disintegration' thrown in. We never expect innovation from The Cure but what worries me more is how little these songs are actually based upon. Cure songs used to be built like houses or in the earlier years built on atmosphere. The songs on this LP don't seem to have any actual foundations, however instantly pleasing the sound may be to long-term Cure fans who have been there and done that. Make no mistake, this is an album for Cure fans with a Cure fan ( Ross Robinson ) as producer, a rare outsider in the studio with Robert Smith and co. So, if 'The Cure' sounds like a parody of The Cure, why still the '6' out of '10' and not a '5' or '4' I hear one person cry? Well, my old fellow, The Cure is an instantly appealing LP to listen to and upon hearing the opening track 'Lost' in particular, it's easy to get carried away and excitied and believe that really, The Cure are well and truly back. Robert Smith gives one of his more passionate vocal performances as the music resembles an enjoyably aggressive dirge behind him. A track that actually does withstand repeated listenings is 'Anniversary'. It's built upon layers but has a beating heart, the little keyboard melody. The vocal melody and lyrics are suitably darkly attractive and The Cure coming out of retirement is worth it if only for songs like this, 'Lost' and the Cure-by-numbers ( but still decent ) single, 'The End Of The World'.
From Alex Jacks
Funny I did a review of the whole Cure back catalogue, and came up with the same rating as you did for this one, with the same highlights thrown in. I also made the analogy that if Wild Mood Swings was Kiss Me Part 2, and Bloodflowers Disintegration Part 2, then this was certainly Wish Part 2. All of their last 3 albums have been inferior copies of earlier works, but still all show flashes of brilliance, but nothing to match the excellence of the 85-92 era. You hear Porl Thompson has rejoined the band (he was there between 85-93) and they have a double album planned. I am thinking it will be their best since Wish.
4:13 Dream 7 ( 2008 ) Underneath The Stars / The Only One / The Reasons Why / Freakshow / Sirensong / The Real Snow White / The Hungry Ghost / Switch / The Perfect Boy / This Here And Now With You / Sleep When I'm Dead / The Scream / It's Over Robert Smith still sings of boys and girls, rather than men and women. Robert Smith will be fifty years old in April, 2009. Isn't about time he grew up? '4:13 Dream' suffers from the same problem all post-wish Cure albums have suffered from - it struggles to find a real reason to actually exist. 'The Only One' mentions the word love 23 times. 'The Only One', 'Freakshow', 'The Perfect Boy' and 'Sleep When I'm Dead' have been released as singles, each one on the 13th day of the month, from May 2008 onwards. A smart promotional idea you might think? Well, it would have been if any of the singles had made any impact outside of the inner circle of dedicated Cure fans. '4:13' was originally supposed to have been a double album, by the way. I'm sorry really that idea wasn't carried through. What we are left with is an album that's largely yet another attempt to pick up from where 'Wish' left off. The return of Porl Thompson has had an effect, his scratchy guitar sound is all over songs such as 'Sleep When I'm Dead', reminding you of classic Cure gone by. Indeed, this song could have come from 'Disintegration', as could album opener, the six-minute 'Underneath The Stars'. Yes, The Cure are merely repeating themselves, but long-term fans will inevitably find much to enjoy in such moments.
From Daniel Kemp Western.Isles, Scotland
Aw Adrian :( that's a low score for this!! I really don't see how you could have truly evaluated this and allowed it to sink in by reviewing it so soon after release! However, your score does reflect the truth in that it is their best album since Wish. I disagree with your comments about the singles though, I find The Only One and Freakshow on par with many of their best efforts! I still haven't made my mind up about it completely though, but I reckon is deserves an 8, but then I would have marked Wish higher than an 8. WHO KNOWS! Anyways, keep up with this great site!
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